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IMDB rating: 6.40 Plot: Joe, a rootless young drifter, finds work on a barge travelling between Glasgow and Edinburgh, owned by Les and his wife Ella. One afternoon they discover the corpse of a young woman floating in the water. Accident? Suicide? Murder? As the police investigate and suspect is arrested, we discover that Joe knows more than he is letting on. Gradually we learn of Joe’s past relationship with the dead woman. Meanwhile an unspoken attraction develops between Joe and Ella, heightening the claustrophobic tensions in the confined space of the barge. |
Actors: McGregor Ewan,Mullan Peter,McElhone Jack,Stewart Ewan,McQuarrie Stuart,Cooke Alan,McCann Rory,Hanmore Ian,Neil Andrew,Brown Arnold,Drama,Crime,Thriller,
Please explain to me how the New Testament does not teach that women are subservient to women?
and must be submissive and not carry authority over man?
1Tim 2:1 - First of all, then, I urge that entreaties and prayers, petitions and thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, for kings and all who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
1 Pet 3:7? You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.
1Cor 11:9 - For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake.
1 Cor 11:7 - For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
1 Cor 14:34 ? The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says.
Tit 2:3 ? Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.
1Tim 2:11-15 ? A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.
Did you mean "women are subservient to women"? Or did you actually mean "to men"?
Ethan Rae | Feb 06, 2010
Don’t worry you don’t have to be subservient , most of us don’t need any fawning
O? | Feb 06, 2010
On the other hand…
The first person to see the resurrected Christ was a woman (John 20:15-18). The first European convert was a woman (Acts 16:14). The only followers of Jesus to stand with Him in his crucifixion were women. There were woman in the upper room and anointed with the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost (Acts 1:14, 2:1-4). Jesus was born to an earthly mother, but not an earthly father(Matt. 1:18,etc.). Only a woman understood Christ’s upcoming death (Mark 14:8).
These actions show that women played a part as crucial to Christ’s ministry as the men. (In fact, if someone was "making up" stories for their new religion, as has been charged to the writers of the New Testament, they certainly wouldn’t have the women as the only ones brave enough to stand at Calvary or the first ones at the empty tomb. Remember, a woman’s testimony was inadmissible in a court of law, so the incident not only makes the disciples look bad, but actually undermines from their assertion that it happened at all! Luke 24:11 states that even the disciples thought their story was "nonsense, and they would not believe them." This is actually a benefit in proving the validity of the Gospel account.)
Now let’s examine what the Bible says about women and their position:
In Galatians 3:28 the scriptures explicitly state that women hold a position of equal value and importance to men: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." When the Messiah was born, He was presented to the prophetess Anna as well as Simeon, again showing the equality of importance in women as well as men. This scripture does not mean that we ignore all differences and treat everyone as one homogenized lump, though. Paul, who penned the above lines, also wrote on how slaves should conduct themselves differently from free men (Eph 6:5-6).
In Galatians, Paul is showing that the value of each of those categories has been raised, for by believing in Christ that person becomes a child of God, no matter what their condition previously.
So, taking all of the above into account, the way we interpret the passage in 1 Timothy is that God created the world and its systems with an order to them.
He has divinely given the responsibility of authority for the church as an organized body to the man, just as the ultimate authority of the marriage relationship rests on the man.
This does not make the man superior, only placed in a different role than the woman. The best example of this I can think of is the tribes of ancient Israel. The Levites were chosen out of the twelve tribes to be the priests and to run the house of God, but this didn’t mean they were superior to any of the other tribes. That is just the position in which God placed them.
In the same way, men are to be the authority in the church. Women are allowed to teach other women, and instruct men. Even Timothy, the recipient of this epistle, was tutored by his mother and grandmother (2 Tim 1:5; 3:15).
God also commanded Abraham to listen to the council of his wife in Genesis 21:12. However, since the authority falls to the man, it is he who will be held accountable for improper decisions, such as also happened to Abraham when he followed bad advice from Sarah in Genesis 16.
So, the Bible is not against women at all. Just because each sex has a different role to play, doesn’t make one role more important than the other. Men are entrusted with leading the church. Women are entrusted with bearing children and providing them with a Godly and secure home life so they may become Godly adults making an impact on our society. I believe I can successfully argue that the responsibility placed on a mother is one of the most important in the world.
Sometimes our society glorifies position and career to the neglect of other weightier matters. Every person in the church has a role, and as is stated in 1 Corinthians 12, all positions become equally important to the mission of glorifying Christ and doing His will.
jeffd_57 | Feb 06, 2010
chrisitianity is NOT islam. Let’s get this straight.
Before God, men and women stand as equals.
Ga 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither MALE NOR FEMALE: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
also in the OT, God used women .. many .. to serve Him as His … prophetess.
do a search. Miriam, anna, huldah, etc etc
a prophet holds a higher office than a priest.
many preachers are preaching nonsense that women cannot preach or teach.
read the OT for yourself and you’ll discover the Truth.
your sons and daughters will prophesy …
preach the gospel to the world … a command to every christian, irregardless of gender.
woman originated from man
then woman produce man
all in all, they’re EQUAL.
if you still can’t see the truth, get stuck in these heresies that you’re brainwashed to follow.
star | Feb 06, 2010